Falun Gong practitioners appeal next to United Nations headquarters in New York City on Sept. 20, 2023.Chung I Ho/The Epoch Times
Liu Xueming, an asylum seeker in Australia, recounted what he learned from a corneal disease specialist in China to The Epoch Times on Oct. 11, 2025. Cindy Li/The Epoch Times
Liu suspects there is more to Alex’s story, which may never see the light of day.
“[Alex] first brought it up because he knew I was a practitioner of Falun Dafa,” Liu said.
“I found it quite interesting. I wondered why he brought it up. I felt like maybe he still had something to hide deep down.”
Organ Harvesting From Live People
Officially, CCP authorities announced they would stop harvesting organs from executed prisoners in 2015.
However, evidence suggests that practice is still thriving to this day, and even goes beyond harvesting organs from dead prisoners.
Recently, CCP leader Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed increasing longevity through organ transplants, allowing a person to potentially live to 150 years.
“Earlier, people rarely lived to 70, but these days at 70 you are still a child,” Xi told Putin through a translator in Russian on Sept. 3 in Beijing, during the military parade commemorating World War II.
“As biotechnology advances, human organs can be continuously transplanted, allowing us to become younger and younger, perhaps even achieve immortality,” Putin replied.
In 2020, the China Tribunal, an independent body investigating forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience in China, concluded “beyond reasonable doubt” that the CCP had conducted forced organ harvesting from live detained Falun Gong practitioners and Uyghurs, deeming it a crime against humanity.
Concerns of the Crime Reaching Australian Shores
Liu’s revelation to The Epoch Times, his first since fleeing China, comes as a delegation of Queensland officials explores training and clinical-trial collaborations with Renji Hospital in Shanghai, which is one of the largest liver transplant centres in China and the largest paediatric liver transplant centre internationally.
While no commitments have been made, concerns have still been raised by human rights advocates, who want clear assurances that any future collaboration will not include anything related to organ transplants.
“No medical collaboration should proceed in the dark,” said David Matas, a Canadian human rights lawyer and Nobel Peace Prize nominee who is currently in Australia speaking about this issue.
During the visit, the Queensland minister explored opportunities in areas such as professional development, clinical trials, and hospital management training, according to a joint statement by the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China and Be Slavery Free.
“Although transplant medicine was not explicitly referenced, the involvement of a transplant institution raises serious concerns,” reads the statement.
“Without clear assurances that future collaboration will exclude transplant-related activities, Queensland Health risks reputational and legal exposure due to China’s ongoing lack of transparency and traceability in organ sourcing.”
Australia has yet to make a clear stance on the CCP’s unethical organ transplant practices.
Warning to Australian Medical Community
Liu wants to warn the Australian medical community to be “extremely cautious and always stay alert” when interacting with their counterparts from China.
“Don’t think that the political system in mainland China is the same as Australia’s,” he said.
“Under the evil regime in mainland China, many things often appear to be one thing on the surface, but in reality, their true purpose—often hidden—is sometimes very evil.”
“The technologies they have learned are not for the benefit of humanity, but for serving the officials of the CCP and the elite class, such as the princeling faction. Many of the things they do are evil, with secretive and hidden purposes.”
Liu noted that people in China are raised in the system’s party culture.
“The party culture becomes ingrained in their very being, silently permeating their bones and cells. This culture influences them in many ways, including in horrific practices like organ harvesting,” he said.
“Over time, as my classmate said, he became numb—nothing feels out of the ordinary anymore.”
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